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Photo outtake by Hayden Shiebler

I recently did a feature on my favorite R&B up-and-comer, Phlo Finister. The piece turned out beautifully, but so much of the conversation between Phlo and I didn't make the cut. Here's some of the little bits that you missed (and you really shouldn't have).

It’s a really cool merge that you are doing taking this mod 1960’s fashion with R&B music.

Exactly, but that’s why it ties into the lifestyle because of the fashion of it! That totally inspires my music. I want to cross over into a rock n’ roll genre. My lifestyle is more rock n’ roll than my music. It’s the fashion of it. I’m living it. I’m not just emulating or copying anyone. I stay true to that.

What do you love so much about mod fashion?

I love all the girls with the mod make-up like Edie Sedgewick. They were all so different but they were in a movement together, that is what I really like about it. The 60’s mod fashion was very proper. I liked that the women didn’t have to take off their clothes to be sexy. Classy but sexy. It was pretty clothes verses no clothes.

You want to redirect the way sexuality is seen in women’s fashion?

Exactly. You are on point.

That’s a hard thing to do. I think it’s interesting the way that you are developing your image. I love how your style is in contrast to your music.

Even if I’m wearing baggy jeans and Tommy Hilfigher or a cute jump suit, there are similarities there. I have clothes on. I am projecting style. I make music according to fashion trends, the trends that I feel are going to be important to music because fashion and music are so close together.

How do fashion and music merge in your world?

I see them as something that connects. I’m always forecasting and looking for that next thing in fashion that is going to change the sound of music. Okay, so you have popular music, down town thing, the whole Andy Warhol thing, the 15 minutes theory of that era and all these different artists then you have the classic 90’s where women were dressing more androgynous and singing from a male perspective… it was because of the clothes they were wearing in my opinion.

Is it really important for you to keep your femininity?

Yes, I’m a woman. I speak for women and I speak for the youth. It’s important, as you said, to change the way sexuality is perceived. As a woman, I need to be feminine, classy, on point about the way I look and feel because there are going to be young girls who are going to look up to me.

You just seem as fearless to me. Does anything scare you?


You can say nothing if you want.

The only thing that scares me is waking up and realizing that I am famous.


Yeah. That’s scary to me… becoming an icon. What if I can’t maintain or handle that?

It’s a big role.

You become like a God. I don’t think I ever imagine myself that way, because you can’t turn back after that. Like, okay this is my job and I’m famous and that’s it. Once you are known, you are known. Once you get it you live it and that scares me. I think what scares me most is that you can’t turn back and you just have to ride it out.

I did an interview with Joan Rivers and she said to me that anyone who thinks of themselves as an icon is an idiot.

It’s true!

Yes, but there is also a massive weight that is put on your shoulders because people look up to you and you have to respect that. It’s a balance.

Some people don’t give a shit. They think they are famous and can say and do whatever they want. You have to come out of yourself for a moment and look at yourself and realize how much your position affects change. One word, one song can affect things. People need to be a bit more responsible. People think too, like… if you don’t give a fuck then people want to be like you and they won’t give a fuck too. You have to care, be humble and deal with success.

All photos by Hayden Shiebler

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